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Shut the fuck up star syndifuck, your movies suck and alls you do is get people to vote 5. You've been doing this for over 2 years, get a fuckin life and good at flash. Its just shit over and over. Yes i'm being rude, because your movies blow balls.

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Thoughts on the MGS Collabs

Posted by TheStarSyndicate Jul. 7, 2008 @ 2:35 AM EDT

lets take a look at the official and the alternate MGS collabs side by side, shall we?

official collab:
a good number of well drawn parts, but some terribly drawn ones. jokes were hit and miss, some were funny satires of the game but many were difficult to understand without prior knowledge. excessive use of gross out humor, including dicks, scat, and sex. had its flaws, but overall, it was pretty good.
score:
4.52 / 5.00

alternate collab:
a good number of well drawn parts, but some terribly drawn ones. jokes were hit and miss, some were funny satires of the official collab but many were difficult to understand without prior knowledge. excessive use of gross out humor, including dicks, scat, and sex. had its flaws, but overall, it was pretty good.
score:
2.34 / 5.00

its difficult to understand the voting habits of the users of this site sometimes, but i guess it just boils down to this: people really fuckin don't like it when the joke's on them

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Jul. 7, 2008 | 2:50 AM Sciutey says:

I liked the alternate collab...

Jul. 7, 2008 | 2:55 AM superstatguy says:

MGS Sucks.
The MGS Flashes are piles of shit.
The SS fucking rocks.

That just about says the truth right there.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 2:58 AM TheStarSyndicate responds:

aww u 2 sweet

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:02 AM x-factor11 says:

I voted 5 for both, there both good, blahblahblah..

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:03 AM Kavinel says:

what superstatguy said

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:03 AM EvilSeed says:

Not really, it was obviously inferior on purpose, not even funny and just the same complain from months ago over and over, they say they can do better, but they are not doing any better, yes, it was on puspose, but still, they fight the (they say) garbage, with even worse garbage... in the eyes of many that was kinda low and a stupid move to make, and lowering, even more, their reputation, but they obviously dont care... they should, cause this is getting pretty boring.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:11 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

first off, they arent fighting anything, its simply a satire of what the official collab was doing. hilarious that so many people like you dont get it

and you saying they are not doing any better is a completely ignorant statement. sure some of the parts of the alternate collab were bad. ill admit after the first half i didnt really want to watch that much more of it, but it got so much better from then on. really, people insulting authors like rtil, zekey, and cdm whose parts were funny are idiotic. if you'd seen any of these guys' best work like i have, you might have a different opinion of them. shit, its no wonder none of that work hasn't been released on newgrounds yet. you faggots wont even give them a chance.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:27 AM Gerkinman says:

I saw the metal gears and they was turning, it was the lulzworthy lulcakes. All my 3.75683 belong to this journal. Hardy har jar bwar.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:12 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

f f f

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:27 AM MAYORMCHEESE says:

will there be a sequel!?!?

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:12 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

well there were some leftover parts but they werent very good

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:34 AM Fleek says:

mgs is fuckin shit fuck newgrounds

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:14 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

:'(

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:35 AM ZekeySpaceyLizard says:

evilseed misses the point

-13 score

rolling 1d8+8 damage

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:13 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

yeh i mean you guys didnt think it was even gonna get frontpaged. it woulda ended up with like 3000 views had tom not found it funny himself and put it there

Updated: Jul. 7, 2008, 3:14 PM

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:40 AM omegared says:

AMEN BROTHER!

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:45 AM Wiiporter says:

Anyone who voted or reviewed zero on that are either stat whores or pussies.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:57 AM PolishMatt says:

Fuck off you dumb piece of shit.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:14 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

lmao

Jul. 7, 2008 | 4:26 AM Dazmi says:

No one cares about good story, or good art. (or at least I don't)
They (or at least, I) vote on how much they liked the movie.

If they love it, 5
Really like it, 4
Think it's ok 2-3
Want's the video to be balmmed, 1-0

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:17 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

"No one cares about good story, or good art. (or at least I don't)"

therein lies the problem with newgrounds

Jul. 7, 2008 | 4:30 AM EvilSeed says:

No, i do get the point, but still doesnt make much sense, yes i know no one is being serious here, i didnt expected any serious argument anyway....

Jul. 7, 2008 | 5:21 AM rtil says:

no you really
uh
don't get it

Jul. 7, 2008 | 6:53 AM MindChamber says:

Lol! that was deep.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 6:58 AM MRat says:

EvilSeed, I can tell by your very own paragraph of thoughts that you really, just don't get it. If you got it, you would say different things. Would you like it? Maybe not, but trust me when I say this, you really don't get it.

Also yeah this post sums it all up.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 9:01 AM Luis says:

i do find the voting stats mysterious as well. and i dont even like metal gear in general.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 10:45 AM ChillyCheese says:

I just happen to like the main collab more.

But I did enjoy Zekeys parts "AND THATS THE JOKE"

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:18 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

those were bugs actually

Jul. 7, 2008 | 10:55 AM TJ111111 says:

I liked the official collab

Jul. 7, 2008 | 11:03 AM InsulinpumpClock says:

Ah! sweet mystery of life, at last I've found thee;
Ah! I know at last the secret of it all;
All the longing, striving, seeking, waiting, yearning,
The burning hopes, the joys and idle tears that fall!

For 'tis love, and love alone, the world is seeking;
And 'tis love, and love alone, that can repay;
Tis the answer, 'tis the end and all of living,
For it is love alone that rules for aye!

Jul. 7, 2008 | 11:05 AM Bwnci says:

I agree with EvilSeed personally but if this means that we both don't get it then please, some one go ahead and explain this one to me. You guys are obviously too deep for me.

As far as I'm concerned with this never ending argument, anyone who drops entertainment value to make an artistic statement is obviously so far up their own arse that they could choke on their own head.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:22 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

lmfao an artistic statement? the only statement i saw there was "why make jokes about videogames that only a certain group of nerdy people will understand?" just look at tom's post to understand the general sentiment on the site right now: newgrounds needs more original collabs that DONT JUST FOCUS ON VIDEOGAMES

Jul. 7, 2008 | 11:10 AM CoolDrMoney says:

One day Ill be famous
Then youll all see

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:22 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

hell yehhhh B)

Jul. 7, 2008 | 11:45 AM BoMToons says:

It probably has more to do with who submitted it than the quality of the pieces. Sad but true.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:23 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

you're absolutely right

Jul. 7, 2008 | 11:55 AM squidly says:

What Alternate collab?

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:23 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

metal gear funnies

Jul. 7, 2008 | 12:12 PM I-smel says:

the first one was funny
then it was just the same joke again and again =/

Jul. 7, 2008 | 12:13 PM I-smel says:

also WHAT THE HELL- this was made before that collab even came out

Jul. 7, 2008 | 12:45 PM BillyMonks says:

i voted 0 on both.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:23 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

ehehehr

Jul. 7, 2008 | 2:22 PM W-P-S says:

i think dat tapir_cunnilingus.gif is not gettin da love it deserves ):

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:24 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

hahaha that was my favorite part

Jul. 7, 2008 | 2:46 PM Sinitron says:

STFU FAG!!!! U DON'T EVEN DO CARTOONS ANYMORE!!!

NOOB!

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:24 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

shh

Jul. 7, 2008 | 2:59 PM kodiakclock says:

i voted zero on the official and five on the alternate

Jul. 7, 2008 | 3:49 PM Pig-Fart says:

I just realized that if I squirt diarrhea onto my computer monitor it ends up being better than both of these collabs combined! VOTE 5

Jul. 7, 2008 | 6:29 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

ye pretty much

Jul. 7, 2008 | 4:16 PM InsulinpumpClock says:

"No one cares about good story, or good art. (or at least I don't)?"

O dear. That's so pathetic and sad. dlkfj Why did I go back and read this?

Jul. 7, 2008 | 4:41 PM trashcanman says:

i liked both, the alternate was funnier tho, much because of the wikipedia articles explaining the jokes

Jul. 7, 2008 | 5:26 PM Shadowii2 says:

I was involved in that official collab and I sure gotta say it had too many cock jokes and such, otherwise it was great.

For the "alternate" one I stopped watching it halfway through, I already got the point what they were trying to do with it. (No offense for those who like it/were involved in it)

Jul. 7, 2008 | 6:30 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

thats what i think most people are doing. watching half of it then Xing out. thats bullshit, a lot of quality parts come after the halfway point

Jul. 7, 2008 | 6:05 PM Bwnci says:

The artistic statement bit I said before was aimed towards that group of artists in general. There's that constant arguement made that all their brilliant and original pieces would never be appreciated here and it's bullshit. If something is truly entertaining it will capture an audience, just look at "Brackenwood" and "The Story of Khale".

I love to see original pieces, but if there just out there to be cool and alternative rather than any bit entertaining, I'm sorry, that's not good animation.

I don't want to be taken the wrong way either, my first paragraph does seem like an attack on those artists but I actually like the good pieces I've seen from them here. What I get irritated most by is (and I'm sorry I gotta use a name) artists like Gerkinman, putting others down and saying what it is to be an animator when his pieces are a clear example of what I was decribing before.

There's enough people on here that follow the ways of rtil so I don't see why these people don't just drop all the moaning and produce pieces to appeal to their own crowd, rather than worry about what EVERYBODY thinks. No ones getting paid for the animations here so no one really has the right to tell the artist what to do.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:04 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

"There's that constant arguement made that all their brilliant and original pieces would never be appreciated here and it's bullshit. If something is truly entertaining it will capture an audience, just look at "Brackenwood" and "The Story of Khale""

who makes this argument? i mean obviously if you make something with professional looking animation like adam phillips, people will like it. but the alternate collab guys already knew that. rtil made fuckin metropolis circuit. that thing was unreal, an insane amount of work. and he earned proper recognition for it.

i really dont get why so many people equate criticizing another's work with tooting your own horn. just because you think someone is overrated doesn't mean you find yourself underrated. did you ever think they might not be taking any of this seriously at all, and are just having a little stupid fun enraging an audience chock full of 13 yr old easily-angered game-obsessed nerdy idiots?

i mean really, look at the hundreds of hilariously stupid abusive reviews pouring in and tell me it doesn't prove the flash's point

Updated: Jul. 7, 2008, 7:08 PM

Jul. 7, 2008 | 6:13 PM Bug says:

rinkity tinktiy dink

Jul. 7, 2008 | 6:53 PM Kenkaku says:

Could this be the most skewed argument on the site?

Here's the real deal:

One is an homage to a game.

The other is a personal attack at a specific group of people. No matter how it is argued, the submission is filled with purposely bad, and not the good bad, the BAD bad, horribly skewed renditions of what NG contains.

Now do the scores make sense?

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:19 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

again, another fool who can't see outside of his self imposed pro-videogame pro-anime pro-nerd mindset.

which specific group of people are we talking about here? the staff members that made the official collab? because if thats who you're talking about, they actually enjoyed the alternate collab, just read their reviews.

the official is not an homage. it is a parody. the alternate is not an attack. it is a satire.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:17 PM Bwnci says:

Plenty of people have made this arguement and if it is to just enrage the young audiences why do the scores above shock you?

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:33 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

they dont surprise me. its just funny, considering the collabs are practically identical

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:45 PM Kenkaku says:

"which specific group of people are we talking about here?"

I think the very end of the last clip of the Funnies satire says all. You know, that little slip of paper? Read it.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:52 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

so because kirbopher and alvin earthworm's names are on a slip of paper, its a personal attack?

wow

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:53 PM Cheeky-Munkey says:

I watched both and I can see where people are getting their opinions of things. I mean the cock jokes are so.. so.. so overused, people seem to think its cruise control to 5 or something and it is just...tasteless. I suppose thats what the majority of people on newgrounds want to see, but I think it needs to be tuned down a little. I personally couldnt watch the alternate collab all the way through, Yes I know apparently the best parts come after, but all I need to say is this, you should organize your flash in such a way that the first few pull in the audience and keep the interested, what do you expect when you put refuse on your door step? not much people are gunna come up and knock on your door. Its just common sense. I would also like to point out that I realize it wasn't even planned as front page material, but you'll never know, so why not take steps to prep it just in case? Over all I try to be fair in my reveiws of the numerous flash, games and audio on this site and have been a member for a long time. I grade based off the fundemental, graphics, sound, smooth animation, and of course substance: joke quality, plot, acting etc. Both had some good and some very bad aspects.

I would also like to take this oppurtunity to point out how useless people like to say "stfu noob" and "gay shit" etc. When they veiw flash they don't understand or enjoy. If you think negatively about a peice say WHY and not just wave your e-peen around. Maybe if you were constructive in your criticism you might see improvements. And stop calling reveiws useless when they aren't what you want to hear! God damnit.

Anyway, I gave the first a 4 and the second a 2, but I am going to go watch the alternate one all the way through and will probably up it to a 4 as well.

Cheers!
Cheeky.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 8:05 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

unfortunately constructive criticism is a lost art on this website. oh well, sure makes for some funny reviews, don't it?

Jul. 7, 2008 | 7:59 PM Kenkaku says:

One more point I want to bring up:

"the staff members that made the official collab? because if thats who you're talking about, they actually enjoyed the alternate collab, just read their reviews."

You then go on to say:

"the official is not an homage"

So what is it? Are the staff members in the right or the wrong? It says so right on the front page that the collab IS an homage. But you claim it's not, despite just saying the admins are correct?

To quote:

'wow'

Until you get your facts straight, I'm not sure if I can take what else you say seriously.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 8:13 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

hahaha boy you are just too much

from wikipedia:
"Homage is also similar to parody, except that parodies typically exaggerate characteristics of previous works for comedic effect."

and what the fuck are you talking about? "admins?" when did i say they were in the right or wrong? i just said they enjoyed the alternate collab, which is true.

Updated: Jul. 7, 2008, 8:18 PM

Jul. 7, 2008 | 8:33 PM ZekeySpaceyLizard says:

I've watched Kenkaku slowly go around commenting on people's journals with a seemingly incorrigible whim of ignorance and stubbornness.

He doesn't get it, Zer0/F00d.
Just let him wallow in his filth.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 8:48 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

lmfao i love his avitar

http://uimg.ngfiles.com/profile/1 291/1291728.gif

its f0d btw

Updated: Jul. 7, 2008, 8:48 PM

Jul. 7, 2008 | 9:44 PM QuEEFMaN says:

agreed. im alot harder on the official collab in my review, and i still stand by it. i personally thought the alternate collab was better since i spend alot of time on places were those jokes started. but atleast they werent inside jokes made by the artists, or jokes from the people who are decent flash artists but never played the game themselfs, or artist who are just plain not funny like superflashbros, duchednier, kupaman (the sniper no sniping joke was not originally his), metalmaveric, and ness masta.

Jul. 7, 2008 | 10:50 PM LLsomething says:

Wait a minute what the fuck am I doing here?

Jul. 8, 2008 | 2:25 AM notorious says:

fuck the description comparison is so genius lmao some people really don't get a joke

Jul. 8, 2008 | 4:30 AM willobeen says:

I only thought that stamper and happy-harry's parts were good. ALTERNATE COLLAB WINS.

Jul. 8, 2008 | 6:31 AM Wiiporter says:

Just so everyone knows, the very best is at the end of the movie.

Jul. 8, 2008 | 7:01 AM CustardCartoonsInc says:

In a way i kinda wish the official collab got blammed and the 'funnies' survived.

What crazy world would that be eh?

Jul. 8, 2008 | 8:17 AM een777 says:

true dat... newgrounders suck and i guess most just watched like the first 3 parts in the alternate and were like "omfg this is nub bullshit gaaah!!!"......

/voter autovote : 0... >.<

but if voters looked closer they would notice that their were some very good submissions towards the middle/end and some well known newgrounders were a part of the alternate including rtil.

but i think the official collab got so much recognition cuz a mod (stamper) was in charge and made frequent posts and if i must say, copied a hollywood trick of hyping a movie of throwing out a flurry of trailers everywhere so ppl be like, "omfg i want to see that shit". And wen they see it, they already have this pre-autovote10 attitude cuz thats how shallow the minds of most newgrounders are.

Jul. 8, 2008 | 9:17 AM JonBro says:

I love how the only difference between those two descriptions is the part about the funny satire.

Jul. 8, 2008 | 9:54 AM SecretClock says:

I know some people are just assholes.

Jul. 8, 2008 | 12:00 PM PigletsMemories says:

And now the submission is lowering to a 1.7. Just amazing how NGers can't take a joke.

Jul. 8, 2008 | 8:23 PM keirupted says:

You should read my blog about the MGS Collab. Just thought you might like a different, yet similar perspecive to the situation.

Jul. 12, 2008 | 7:31 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

your part was the best in the official collab

Jul. 9, 2008 | 11:05 PM 50vmp says:

i only spit this one time so let me take it slow
i started to get high about an hour ago
but then tha buzzer rang and i looked out the peephole
it was a whole bunch of raptors and they just wont go
i step back and the knocks i just try to ignore
thought i was safe but they knew how to open doors
and without even askin they just came on in
they started smokin my weed and then they called their friends

i smoke a joint tonight
i smoke a joint tonight
me an all these dinosaurs are rollin bones tonight
we rollin bones tonight
we rollin bones tonight
me an all these dinosaurs is gettin stoned tonight

Jul. 9, 2008 | 11:07 PM 50vmp says:

this news post is silly

Jul. 12, 2008 | 7:32 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

"WTF"
by: MetalShado
date: 47 minutes ago

GGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYY YYYY YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!
!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This needs some serious work. First off, cut out the gay jokes that only fags would make. Second off, most of the animation SUCKS. i dont see how the hell this made it on the front page. U need to completely change this.

People find this review helpful!

Jul. 13, 2008 | 12:14 AM SgtDK says:

I love the mgs series but i didn't like the official collab that much.

Jul. 14, 2008 | 3:05 PM 50vmp says:

lmf gotta love those reviewers

Jul. 19, 2008 | 3:16 AM badfurrykitty says:

woo! :P

Jul. 23, 2008 | 1:30 PM The-Wade-Birgade says:

Most NG faggots think that If someone makes a parody on another parody that it has to suck, but I 5'd Metal Gear Funnies because I love the authors who made it.

Jul. 23, 2008 | 7:54 PM SecretClock says:

Aug. 1, 2008 | 3:29 PM Emanhattan says:

you made your point perfectly

Aug. 30, 2008 | 11:14 AM X-Gary-Gigax-X says:

DDDDDD

Sep. 15, 2008 | 3:18 PM NewShape says:

ok.

Sep. 22, 2008 | 7:25 PM Gavin says:

fucking wise, man.

Sep. 22, 2008 | 7:26 PM Gavin says:

say that really serious and like hardcore it sounds so gay lmfao

Sep. 25, 2008 | 6:39 PM DaVeB0T says:

Fuck this n****r

Oct. 5, 2008 | 9:54 PM CuteAndFuzzy says:

i will blame all the mgs flashes !!!

Oct. 11, 2008 | 4:06 PM X-Gary-Gigax-X says:

dddd

Oct. 17, 2008 | 5:00 AM Death619 says:

how you goin dad?

Oct. 18, 2008 | 4:02 PM n0ise says:

hey

Oct. 21, 2008 | 12:35 AM Yoshio says:

a brilliant newspost and you debated brilliantly every point you made was fantastically insightful and you made your opponents look like complete idiots

holy hell I'm blown away I don't think you could have made your argument more perfect

Oct. 23, 2008 | 9:02 PM TheStarSyndicate responds:

at first i thought you were being sarcastic

lmao thanks

Oct. 24, 2008 | 6:39 PM Flee says:

Yup, that's the mainstream audience's doing. They'll automatically vote 5 on anything they can relate to. "LOL I PLAYED THAT GAME SO I'LL GIVE THIS A GOOD SCORE" Since the majority of NG's audience is like that, it shows the most.

There's only a few individuals who look for good content and art, and usually "the hordes" don't understand were they're coming from since all they look for is video game characters. I believe that is why there are so many people who hate you. They find your flash un-entertaining and useless when in actuality, your original work is improving the artistic value of the site.

Seriously, the entirety of Alvin Earthworm's work is nowhere near as good as just one of your flashes.

-Flee

Nov. 9, 2008 | 6:35 PM lnsho says:

fuk you

Nov. 26, 2008 | 6:17 PM bkdude says:

star syndickscat

Dec. 3, 2008 | 3:42 PM UltraPitchFork says:

I once ate my own poo then my friend tasted it and said I wasn't a virtual sociopath anymore.

Dec. 7, 2008 | 4:25 PM fabolousbob says:

1)I don't find this alternate collab for seeing it, but don't wooory for the users, it's the normal primate's reasoning.
2)I must see ALL your dailytoon,sooner or later...After that,i think i've got the right to kill you.
Mmh, in terminator style ,arriving to you with a sub-fuckin temporal energy sphere that disintegrate every that touches...
3) I'm going to get a beer.